[boogytim]

How about a lyrics section to his great songs so we can sing along better???

[BillyBuerger]

Okay, okay I'll be nice to the newbie.  Although I will mention that if he looks at the top of the page here under "Music", that there is a "Lyrics" link.

Lyrics

[briguy]

How about a lyrics section to his great songs so we can sing along better???

Now, although IMHO this is one of the most awesomely designed Web sites I visit, the above quote does say alot about Web Design and Menus.

[harris]

Now, although IMHO this is one of the most awesomely designed Web sites I visit, the above quote does say alot about Web Design and Menus.

or it just says that some people dont look around alot when first visiting a site. sometimes i miss stuff on new sites too...

[Nate]

Now, although IMHO this is one of the most awesomely designed Web sites I visit, the above quote does say alot about Web Design and Menus.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, but again, you sound as though you are putting people down. In this case, the designers of this site...

You compliment the site and then put in a fleeting remark that seems to state that you know better and there should be different menus on this site.

People miss things, help them out and go on with life, don't put down someone else.

GO AWAY!

(Again, I appologize to the rest of the normal people here for being mean and catty.)

[briguy]

I am not going away, and learn to read, that is not what I said, meant, or was implying (continued elsewhere)

[Nate]

I am not going away, and learn to read, that is not what I said, meant, or was implying (continued elsewhere)

I'll put a similar post here as I did where it is "continued elsewhere" ...

Remember, I said it seemed as though you are puting people down again. In this case you were just puitting down the whole system of web design with no malice to the designers of this site, but since everyone who read it thinks you put them down, you obviously don't know how to convey what you mean.

Hence the point that I and others are trying to make here..
Whatever intentions you have when you wirte, they come out either wrong or half-assed backwards.

Convey what you want to say or go away!

Again,

YOU AREN'T WELCOME HERE BY THE NORMAL, INTELLIGENT POPULATION...

GO AWAY!!!!

[briguy]

YOU AREN'T WELCOME HERE BY THE NORMAL, INTELLIGENT POPULATION...

GO AWAY!!!!

Define please. Some may take this as an insult.

[Nate]

Define please. Some may take this as an insult.

The normal, intelligent people of this world, as far as this site is concerned, seems to be everyone but you, at this point.

Does this help clarify?

[briguy]

The normal, intelligent people of this world, as far as this site is concerned, seems to be everyone but you, at this point.

Does this help clarify?

No, but to dwell on the philosophy of what you think you are saying is too off topic and will waste too much space.

I have a comment on the topic though, I noticed at the top of every page, no matter which one you view, is a "Search" box and in small letters, "lyric search" which negates the menu opinion. I suggest if you want to find a lyric or song, type there, it works fantastic! And as Billy said, in the menu under music is a lyrics tab, also works great.

[Nate]

No, but to dwell on the philosophy of what you think you are saying is too off topic and will waste too much space.

Huh?

Well you might as well, you waste other people's oxygen every day...

Whatever.

[Greg]

I have a comment on the topic though, I noticed at the top of every page, no matter which one you view, is a "Search" box and in small letters, "lyric search" which negates the menu opinion. I suggest if you want to find a lyric or song, type there, it works fantastic! And as Billy said, in the menu under music is a lyrics tab, also works great.

Jeezus... Where the fuck to start.

Ok.  First of all, it's common 'Net Etiquette' that when you're responding to something that you quote what it is you're responding to.  There's some handy information here if you're curious to read more about that.

This avoids situations like the message I'm quoting of yours where you appear to be responding to a personal flame by giving advice on where to find the Lyric Search.

Secondly, by proper quoting you avoid situations where things might be misconstrued.  For instance, had you quoted a post of mine with that comment about the Lyrics search and how great it works I might have ended up going into Flamethrower mode since I'd written the Lyrics Search script (or if Lippert has rewritten it I'd at least written the original one.)

As for some of the comments you've posted on other threads dealing with things said in this one:

You had made the comment:

Now, although IMHO this is one of the most awesomely designed Web sites I visit, the above quote does say a lot about Web Design and Menus.

Followed by:

Then 'everyone'please voice yourself now. If you find insult in the words 'awesome', 'Web sites', 'designed' and 'visit', or the 'IMHO' ('In my humble opinion' for the non-web savy), then we need to know so we all can change our use of the english language.

Now, while technically correct, your original comment did lend itself towards confusion.  Not the least of which is that you made the comment in response to someone looking for a feature which exists on this site, but the user could not find.  In that context it is quite easy to misread your comment as sarcasm.

The amusing thing is that had you written your original comment in a way which would have been more gramatically correct, such confusion wouldn't have been possible.  For instance, a possible alternate wording of it could have been:

Now, though this is strictly my opinion, but off all the web sites that I visit, the layout here (www.patmccurdy.com) is simply one of the best I?ve seen.

But of course, where would the world be if everyone communicated their thoughts, feelings, and ideas clearly.  World Peace?

But that's just my opinion...
(*listens for the Denis Miller echo, 'but I could be wrong.')

- Greg

[briguy]

Your comment is well written, and the suggestions within are kept for future postings. Additionally, thank you for putting your thoughts forward to me without flaming or emotional outburst. It is appreciated by not only me, but I am sure by all the readers out there.

Like I stated, the postings will be reduced to show or first time venue reviews. However, I will attempt to be clear in the writing.

(further response)

Sarcasm: While sometimes humorously intented, can insult the recipient if taken without the humor intended.

While the proper definition of the word has not been cited above, I believe that is what was intended to be conveyed by Greg? In that case, I apologize to whomever did the menu scripting. The comment was not to flame the Mccurdy menu above, it was sarcasm directed at scripted web menus in general while first commenting on the topic.

My intention and my sense of humor stems from whats called "Satire". Some get it, some don't. Rob who also used to post here was a saterical type of person, and so was the former top poster. Some do not get satire. Thats why some enjoy SNL, Mad-TV, or the Simpsons, and some find it stupid and call it crap. Anyhow, I suppose my attempts at satire (regarding Ghopher and other subjects) are not within the taste of this site so my former promise should allieviate that issue.

And my final thought: It is clearly true if everyone could communicate and understand the other fully, there could truly be world peace. Unfortunately, conflict is a serious human condition ?Dennis Miller I am not.

[Amy]

My intention and my sense of humor stems from whats called "Satire". Some get it, some don't. Rob who also used to post here was a saterical type of person, and so was the former top poster. Some do not get satire.

I think a large problem is the fact that Satire and Sarcasm, don't convey well in the message board format. I have watched many great threads be easily drowned out by Satire gone bad. And a lot stems from the fact that so many people are to close to the posts. Instead of just reading the posts we all read into the posts.

One thing that I have found out through various situations is that sometimes, you just need to let things go. Don't always post a come back. Flame Wars are fun, and exciting. But you need to take the emotion out of it. Don't post in anger, post in well thought and planned and crafted posts. And know when to back away..



BTW: this wasn't just direct at you Brian

Amy
2/16/03 will be 1 year since I have been to a Pat show. I think it's time to make a return.

[briguy]

BTW: this wasn't just direct at you Brian

Amy
2/16/03 will be 1 year since I have been to a Pat show. I think it's time to make a return.

No offense taken, and a well crafted and "in-tune" post. We welcome you back to the forum and the shows.

BTW you put "Brian" instead of "Brain" in your vodka dinner comment. Honorable, yet a common mistake.

Post BTW: Check out http://www.lukpac.org The blog of the day simply makes me laugh and think all at the same time. A truly saterical site!